Organizers Meeting Chat Log
28 March 2011
2011-03-28 16:02:26 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Hi Tamura
2011-03-28 16:02:38 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: Hello Tamura
2011-03-28 16:02:55 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Starting in 1 minute.....
2011-03-28 16:03:51 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I've redone the HOME PAGE... if you'd like to check it out!
2011-03-28 16:04:11 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I tried to put things in paragraph format -- giving links where appropriate.
2011-03-28 16:04:31 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I like that introduction. Down to earth ... says it all
2011-03-28 16:04:32 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I tend to think in bulleted lists... but I think Geir has a point that paragraphs may seem more friendly.
2011-03-28 16:04:47 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: this is only my second draft.
2011-03-28 16:04:51 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: ;)
2011-03-28 16:04:54 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I would add ONE word
2011-03-28 16:05:07 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: "We seek to develop and open standard ...."
2011-03-28 16:05:27 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: is that the right way of saying that?
2011-03-28 16:05:35 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: an open standard?
2011-03-28 16:05:37 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: develop an open
2011-03-28 16:05:38 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: yes
2011-03-28 16:05:41 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: that sounds great.
2011-03-28 16:05:45 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: thanks for that input.
2011-03-28 16:06:04 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: done!
2011-03-28 16:06:25 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I've got your hyperlinks in there for GPS and EE for ya, GeneJ -- so you dont' have to look those up.
2011-03-28 16:06:26 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:06:27 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:06:29 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:06:33 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Our agenda today:
2011-03-28 16:06:38 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: The text under "WHAT do we do here?" seems to be "how we go about doing it" ?
2011-03-28 16:06:39 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Backing up protocol
2011-03-28 16:06:40 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: tyty
2011-03-28 16:06:41 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: anything else?
2011-03-28 16:07:13 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: right -- Tamura but I am using two of the WHO, What, Why, When and How that we were taught in the olden days....
2011-03-28 16:07:21 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: The single line about it actually is "WHAT we do"
2011-03-28 16:07:24 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I thought What do we do here sounded more grounded.
2011-03-28 16:07:35 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: about it ==> above it
2011-03-28 16:07:37 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: ok
2011-03-28 16:07:39 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I'll change that.
2011-03-28 16:07:58 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: done
2011-03-28 16:08:12 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: anyway let's live with that home page for a bit and see how it goes.
2011-03-28 16:08:13 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:08:13 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:08:18 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I think Geir will like this.
2011-03-28 16:08:20 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: we may notice other things to change.
2011-03-28 16:08:25 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I have the blog in there.
2011-03-28 16:08:35 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: and removed all that text on the bottom from the former home page.
2011-03-28 16:08:45 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: as we change our focus to data models
2011-03-28 16:08:53 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: then we will change the home page... etc.
2011-03-28 16:08:54 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: etc.
2011-03-28 16:09:21 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I'd also like to add ATTENDANCE to our agenda and talk about that now.....
2011-03-28 16:09:22 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:09:23 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:09:30 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: brb... little dog needs door
2011-03-28 16:09:32 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: ah! change heading to "what's hot now" :-)
2011-03-28 16:09:51 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: hmmmm that's a great idea.
2011-03-28 16:10:24 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: "Lowdown on the BuzzzUP" :)
2011-03-28 16:10:30 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: heheheheheee
2011-03-28 16:10:31 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Yes!!
2011-03-28 16:10:34 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I like that idea!
2011-03-28 16:10:52 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: hehehe ... separates us from the pack, too
2011-03-28 16:11:03 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:11:03 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:11:34 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Regarding ATTENDANCE -- I forgot to send a reminder email to everyone on Wiki mail.... with a link to the registraiton page....
2011-03-28 16:11:42 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: That huge pack of GEDCOM alternative sites ;-)
2011-03-28 16:11:44 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I'll put that on my calendar to do on Sunday evenings.
2011-03-28 16:11:55 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: ;-)
2011-03-28 16:12:04 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: :)
2011-03-28 16:12:32 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: so ANDY let's you and I work to see that a REMINDER EMAIL goes out. I was out of practice I'd say.
2011-03-28 16:12:45 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I think we have better attendance when they see the link in an email reminder.
2011-03-28 16:12:47 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:12:47 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:13:00 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Ooo... FYI
2011-03-28 16:13:02 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Any other thoughts?
2011-03-28 16:13:05 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: yes?
2011-03-28 16:13:11 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: When I logged in today, I was told
2011-03-28 16:13:13 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: ok- I'll be Myrt's Official Reminder :)
2011-03-28 16:13:27 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: that I couldn't run the GTM application because
2011-03-28 16:13:39 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I didn't have Java
2011-03-28 16:13:44 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: enabled
2011-03-28 16:13:47 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: BUT I did.
2011-03-28 16:13:49 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: You are on the MAC platform as well, correct.
2011-03-28 16:13:50 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: ?
2011-03-28 16:13:53 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Yes.
2011-03-28 16:14:00 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: But it's never done this before
2011-03-28 16:14:10 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: That is a GoToWebinar problem -- wonder what's up? You had trouble signing in before.
2011-03-28 16:14:12 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I almost sent email ..
2011-03-28 16:14:13 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: as I recally.
2011-03-28 16:14:16 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: hmmmm.
2011-03-28 16:14:28 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: but then just decided I'd try the link again from the email.
2011-03-28 16:14:33 [Action] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: nods
2011-03-28 16:14:35 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: and it opened without any comment
2011-03-28 16:14:36 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: and it worked?
2011-03-28 16:14:42 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: That's why I was late.
2011-03-28 16:14:45 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: geesh --- a hiccup in their system I guess.
2011-03-28 16:14:48 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: \hmmmm
2011-03-28 16:14:52 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: glad you were diligent.
2011-03-28 16:15:01 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: do you ahve a new FireFox version?
2011-03-28 16:15:08 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: mine updated this weekend... on my laptop
2011-03-28 16:15:23 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: and I had to install some updates to Java and Adobe
2011-03-28 16:15:45 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: before I could demo GoToWebinar to some friends at a big genealogy website.
2011-03-28 16:15:45 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Yes.
2011-03-28 16:15:49 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: Yeah- there were a bunch of different updates this weekend for some reason.
2011-03-28 16:15:50 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: (not the biggest)
2011-03-28 16:15:51 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I hve current FF
2011-03-28 16:16:15 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: well, I heard from people who attended SCANFEST yesterday that they were having trouble with FF most recent version
2011-03-28 16:16:19 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: not encountered last month.
2011-03-28 16:16:24 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: Gene- current=3.6.16 or 4.0?
2011-03-28 16:16:27 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: 4.0
2011-03-28 16:16:27 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: SCANFEST runs .... let me see....
2011-03-28 16:17:10 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: <--- also has 4.0 and has had no trouble with it.
2011-03-28 16:17:13 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Scanfest uses CoverItLive and so I think it is your FF.
2011-03-28 16:17:19 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: but Andy, aren't you on a PC?
2011-03-28 16:17:24 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: FF runs fine, but not all add-ons compatible yet.
2011-03-28 16:17:32 [Action] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: nods
2011-03-28 16:17:36 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: thanks for letting us know.
2011-03-28 16:17:38 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: yes.. on 3 PCs to be exact :)
2011-03-28 16:17:49 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: let's hope the coders catch up with FF then.
2011-03-28 16:17:57 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: It will make life easier all around.
2011-03-28 16:17:58 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:17:58 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:18:12 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I wonder if others thought they couldn't get in the room?
2011-03-28 16:18:27 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: GeneJ were you initially going to the website and then planning to type in the meeting ID?
2011-03-28 16:18:38 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: instead of using the link in your email?
2011-03-28 16:18:51 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:18:52 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:18:53 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:18:57 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I initially linked FROM BetterGEDCOM
2011-03-28 16:19:10 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: and the second time, I linked from the e-mail.
2011-03-28 16:19:17 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: there is a link to the exact meeting -- that would be to registering, wouldn't it?
2011-03-28 16:19:24 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Yes.
2011-03-28 16:19:33 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I think that is what triggered the e-mail, actually
2011-03-28 16:19:33 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: there isn't a link to the exact meeting EXCEPT to register on BG to my knowledge.
2011-03-28 16:19:37 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: right.
2011-03-28 16:19:38 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:19:39 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:20:06 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: so when you registed this AM that is what triggered your on screen problem alert
2011-03-28 16:20:15 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: IOW, my failed attempt triggered the registration ... the registration triggered the e-mail.
2011-03-28 16:20:19 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: but the email came to you anyway, with a viable link that provided you access.
2011-03-28 16:20:23 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Yes.
2011-03-28 16:20:31 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: So the registration worked... just gave you an error message.
2011-03-28 16:20:35 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: it was that attempt that sent me scrambling.
2011-03-28 16:20:41 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: wonder if it is because it was AFTER I had opened the webinar?
2011-03-28 16:20:47 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: oh well, we on'y have to solve GEDCOM problems here
2011-03-28 16:20:51 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: It let me register but would not let me "in" to the meeting
2011-03-28 16:20:57 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: not GoToWebinar stuff, eh? LOL.
2011-03-28 16:20:58 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:20:58 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:21:00 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: kk
2011-03-28 16:21:00 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Yes.
2011-03-28 16:21:04 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: "OnlY' she says!
2011-03-28 16:21:10 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: ONE MORE THING that I'd like to talk about....
2011-03-28 16:21:13 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: the backing up
2011-03-28 16:21:23 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Geir mentioned attempting to do it.
2011-03-28 16:21:28 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I haven't had a second to do it...
2011-03-28 16:21:30 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: It's an undocumented GotoWebinar feature; no access if you haven't finished your assigned BetterGEDCOM tasks.
2011-03-28 16:21:35 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: felt the home page was a higher priority.
2011-03-28 16:21:43 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: hahaha
2011-03-28 16:21:56 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: but I am concerned about giving additional access to the admin side
2011-03-28 16:22:06 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: if I add Geir is that showing preference?
2011-03-28 16:22:16 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Shouldn't this be an "organizers" responsibility?
2011-03-28 16:22:18 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:22:18 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:22:28 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: He knows how to do it.
2011-03-28 16:22:33 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: maybe mine, since I own the wikispace -- paying for it.
2011-03-28 16:22:46 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: he doesn't know how to do it, because he couldn't complete the process without greater access.
2011-03-28 16:23:06 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: The problem with greater access is that someone can inadvertantly upgrade and incur expenses on my credit card.
2011-03-28 16:23:08 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: echnically- yes, is should be you but... you can delegate ;)
2011-03-28 16:23:13 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: no offence to Geir of course.
2011-03-28 16:23:15 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I sure wouldn't bank on me being able to figure it out!
2011-03-28 16:23:30 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Just thinking of setting precedences here.
2011-03-28 16:23:33 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:23:33 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:23:47 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I have no problem with Geir backing up.
2011-03-28 16:23:49 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Well, I think I'll just add a reminder to back it up.... how frequently would you like.
2011-03-28 16:23:55 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I do think the back up should be shared.
2011-03-28 16:24:04 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: Just a question: how locked into WikiSpaces is BetterGEDCOM? Is there any utility to export and import into another wiki platform?
2011-03-28 16:24:07 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: But GeneJ I have a problem with anyone else having access to my account with my credit card.
2011-03-28 16:24:13 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: There are certain Admin things thay only you should be able to do- especially if it involves your money :)
2011-03-28 16:24:15 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: OOoo
2011-03-28 16:24:26 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Yes.
2011-03-28 16:24:31 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: that is my only concern --- not Geir, but setting the precedence.
2011-03-28 16:24:47 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: there is an export utility
2011-03-28 16:24:50 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: let me look into it.
2011-03-28 16:25:07 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I jsut couldn't get everything done I'd planned before the meeting. I'll report next week at this meeting, OK.
2011-03-28 16:25:08 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: ?
2011-03-28 16:25:27 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: kk
2011-03-28 16:25:32 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: If you can import into another wiki platform, you can set it up on the domain, and have full control.
2011-03-28 16:25:44 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: it can be downloaded in the FOLLOWING:
2011-03-28 16:25:48 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .PDF
2011-03-28 16:25:51 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Wiki Text
2011-03-28 16:25:52 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Html
2011-03-28 16:26:10 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: in either a Windows .zip file or
2011-03-28 16:26:20 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: a Unix .tgz file
2011-03-28 16:26:22 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: Hm, "Wiki Text" *sounds* right...
2011-03-28 16:26:57 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: It would be ironic for BG to suffer vendor lock-in...
2011-03-28 16:27:09 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Greg made 2 in Unix .tgz mode and it amounted to about 2.03 MB
2011-03-28 16:27:13 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: LOL! Wouldn't it tho!
2011-03-28 16:27:50 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: ok, I am processing a WIKI TEXT in .ZIP mode... we shall see what happens.
2011-03-28 16:28:08 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: It says I'll receive a notice when the file is created.
2011-03-28 16:28:18 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: might be good to look into an EXTERNAL backup plan for a wiki.
2011-03-28 16:28:30 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: not using the existing service to back up our wiki.
2011-03-28 16:29:21 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: ok -- it created the zipped file, and gave me the option in windows to save it or open it.
2011-03-28 16:29:32 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I'll upload the file so you all can see what to make of it....
2011-03-28 16:29:35 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: one second.
2011-03-28 16:29:42 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: it only took about a minute.
2011-03-28 16:30:16 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Is this called a rount trip test?
2011-03-28 16:30:30 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: export/download/70116/bettergedcom_20110328.zip
2011-03-28 16:30:36 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: can you get that file?
2011-03-28 16:30:56 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: Prolly in this format: http://help.wikispaces.com/Wikitext
2011-03-28 16:31:18 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: I got it fine.
2011-03-28 16:31:32 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I got something.
2011-03-28 16:31:55 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: ok, so I can make a backup every WEEK here at the organizers meeting, and send you the link.
2011-03-28 16:32:07 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Only the last one or two are available without having to upgrade
2011-03-28 16:32:15 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: the upgrade allows the last ten backups.
2011-03-28 16:32:19 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Is this a good plan?
2011-03-28 16:32:31 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I will add the backup to the agenda to remind me.
2011-03-28 16:32:53 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: Err.. Myrt- I can put them on the Zshare thing if you like.
2011-03-28 16:33:02 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: sure --- good idea....
2011-03-28 16:33:03 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: That way we can keep all we want.
2011-03-28 16:33:05 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: thanks, Andy.
2011-03-28 16:33:17 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: Or try the brand new sendoid thingamajig
2011-03-28 16:33:34 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: http://sendoid.com/
2011-03-28 16:34:29 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: kewl...
2011-03-28 16:34:31 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: OK
2011-03-28 16:34:36 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: we've got a backup plan.
2011-03-28 16:34:46 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I think weekly on Monday at Organizers Meeting is a good plan.
2011-03-28 16:34:57 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: and having the file in at least two places is good as well.
2011-03-28 16:34:58 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Maybe send a copy of the backup to Geir?
2011-03-28 16:35:09 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: He doesn't need the copy
2011-03-28 16:35:16 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: he just needs to know we've got it.
2011-03-28 16:35:22 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I am attempting to be impartial.
2011-03-28 16:35:26 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: ;)
2011-03-28 16:35:55 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I am not sure anyone really "needs" a copy of the wiki....
2011-03-28 16:36:02 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: are there security issues with making it public?
2011-03-28 16:36:15 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Well.
2011-03-28 16:36:17 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: could be
2011-03-28 16:36:24 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: does it have our email addresses in it?
2011-03-28 16:36:26 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: the wiki is public, but it would be harder to duplicate without accessing a backup.
2011-03-28 16:36:32 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I don't know... I haven't checked.
2011-03-28 16:36:34 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Is your credit card in it?
2011-03-28 16:36:38 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I don't think it would.
2011-03-28 16:36:46 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: those are personal account items.
2011-03-28 16:36:55 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: Myrtle's credit card? Oh... (starting download)
2011-03-28 16:36:57 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: let me open it and see
2011-03-28 16:37:00 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Has anyone tt Tom?
2011-03-28 16:37:01 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: heheheheheeeee
2011-03-28 16:37:06 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: or heard from Tom?
2011-03-28 16:37:22 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: yes, he intended to lay low for a bit.
2011-03-28 16:37:29 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: He was at the OpenGen webinar.
2011-03-28 16:37:39 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: how are things going over htere?
2011-03-28 16:37:57 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: I don't know, I left after five minutes, too much background noise.
2011-03-28 16:38:31 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: I keep meaning to get over there but this FV game is taking a lot of my time *sigh*
2011-03-28 16:38:38 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: People without headsets make a lot of it...
2011-03-28 16:38:39 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I heard they are not using GoToWebinar any more.
2011-03-28 16:38:56 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: You heard wrong?
2011-03-28 16:39:14 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: oh, Ryssa told me that before she left OpenGen / Apple Tree.
2011-03-28 16:39:32 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: and they aren't muting everyone.
2011-03-28 16:39:37 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: They are looking at alternatives maybe, like everyone is...
2011-03-28 16:39:42 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: DO they have more attendees that we have active participants?
2011-03-28 16:39:45 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: oic
2011-03-28 16:39:50 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: its a tough world out there.
2011-03-28 16:41:04 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Looks like the backup is what's on each page...
2011-03-28 16:41:51 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: in VERY GENRIC (a la RootWeb mailing list generic) text mode... with some code interspursed.
2011-03-28 16:42:06 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I am removing the LINK to the backup file from our organizers meeting notes.
2011-03-28 16:42:57 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: there are a great deal of files
2011-03-28 16:43:33 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: which are our creation, not the wiki's.
2011-03-28 16:43:38 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Apparently ownership
2011-03-28 16:43:43 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: and members are not part of the backup.
2011-03-28 16:44:06 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I have a sources, etc. question
2011-03-28 16:44:19 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: kk
2011-03-28 16:44:24 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: fire away -- we have 15 more minutes
2011-03-28 16:44:26 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: ;)
2011-03-28 16:44:47 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I developed a page that is sort of ... Sources and Citations in GEDCOM for dummies
2011-03-28 16:44:58 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I have a few more graphics to add.
2011-03-28 16:45:15 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: ok....
2011-03-28 16:45:18 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: do you have the URL....
2011-03-28 16:45:19 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: It was my way, Myrt, of trying to
2011-03-28 16:45:22 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Oooo
2011-03-28 16:45:28 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: not publishd ... in MS Word
2011-03-28 16:45:31 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: and Photoshop
2011-03-28 16:45:32 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: ooooh ok.
2011-03-28 16:45:41 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I'm wondering "where" it should go.
2011-03-28 16:45:47 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: should it go on the blog?
2011-03-28 16:46:11 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: "Sources and citations in GEDCOM for dummies" should be your next blog post on your own blog?
2011-03-28 16:46:25 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: On the BetterGEDCOM blog?
2011-03-28 16:46:29 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: well, if you prefer that environment --- will you place a link to it with a short summary on your EE & GPS pages somewhere.
2011-03-28 16:46:35 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Or just right in the wiki
2011-03-28 16:46:36 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: thought I don't like the term "dummies" at all.
2011-03-28 16:46:39 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I made it for the wiki
2011-03-28 16:46:51 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: well, then create the page here, and link it to EE & GPS
2011-03-28 16:46:55 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: whichever.
2011-03-28 16:46:57 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: but if we are looking for blog content, it cud go there
2011-03-28 16:47:00 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: kk
2011-03-28 16:47:00 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: we can always just pick on you later.
2011-03-28 16:47:02 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: LOL.
2011-03-28 16:47:05 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: hahaha
2011-03-28 16:47:07 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: I love "for dummies" books; it says right on the cover that it's not for me :-)
2011-03-28 16:47:22 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I appreciate so much the ideas you are attempting to describe, GeneJ.
2011-03-28 16:47:29 [Action] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: is ignoring Tamura! LOL
2011-03-28 16:47:41 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: Gene- then use "poe Le Dumkophfs" instead of "for dummies"- give it a bit of class :
2011-03-28 16:47:43 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I didn't call it that
2011-03-28 16:47:48 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: poe=por
2011-03-28 16:47:52 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: LOL
2011-03-28 16:47:54 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: actually I didn't put a name on it yet
2011-03-28 16:48:01 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: but something catchy will do
2011-03-28 16:48:02 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: that would let out the italians.... etc. LOL
2011-03-28 16:48:29 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: oic, it was your generic term forwhat you are developing.
2011-03-28 16:48:49 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: <--- is *not* a dummy but plays one on the internet!
2011-03-28 16:48:50 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I think it significant that the programmer (Geir) says we cannot go forward without your work, GeneJ.
2011-03-28 16:48:58 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: ...for dummies, and everyone else, even DearMyrtle.
2011-03-28 16:49:00 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Rotflol at Andy.
2011-03-28 16:49:05 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:49:05 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-03-28 16:49:08 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: hehehehehehheeeee
2011-03-28 16:49:11 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: No ... he just wants me to get it up there.
2011-03-28 16:49:24 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: but I LIKE that he wants it up there.
2011-03-28 16:49:28 [Action] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: knows it safe to say that, she is ignoring me anyway.
2011-03-28 16:49:30 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: and that he communicates so well
2011-03-28 16:49:40 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: :::giggle::::
2011-03-28 16:49:40 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: hahaha
2011-03-28 16:49:50 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Tamura ...
2011-03-28 16:49:52 [Action] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: nods at GeneJ overlooking Tamura completely.
2011-03-28 16:49:57 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I'm not sure the GPS excludes SG
2011-03-28 16:50:22 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I'm having a hard time thinking why it would
2011-03-28 16:50:29 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: err...
2011-03-28 16:50:32 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: how it would
2011-03-28 16:50:47 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: well, your work doesn't have to be the final product -- see how well you all helped me with the home page?
2011-03-28 16:50:54 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: But I do see an article in Tamura's future ...
2011-03-28 16:51:01 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: jsut go for IT... ;)
2011-03-28 16:51:08 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: what GeneJ didn't know about GEDCOM sources for dummies
2011-03-28 16:51:14 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: yup, you are right -- Tamura will certainly have something to say.
2011-03-28 16:51:20 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: GeneJ: let's just say it is was written by traditional genealogists for traditional genealogy.
2011-03-28 16:51:29 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: It really DOES take a village to get this right.
2011-03-28 16:51:34 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Yes.
2011-03-28 16:51:35 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Tamura, that is a good way to do it.
2011-03-28 16:51:39 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: to put it.
2011-03-28 16:51:48 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I post it to wiki first
2011-03-28 16:52:03 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: you can perhaps lay it out better over on the blog with more details there?
2011-03-28 16:52:04 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: and when pps have had a chance to comment,
2011-03-28 16:52:07 [Action] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: sees many articles in the future....
2011-03-28 16:52:08 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: if we think its a go
2011-03-28 16:52:09 [Action] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: nods
2011-03-28 16:52:14 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: I am sure it is.
2011-03-28 16:52:15 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: we send it to blog where we don' updatae
2011-03-28 16:52:30 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Sometimes less is more.
2011-03-28 16:52:38 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: Gier is looking for "fresh" content
2011-03-28 16:52:41 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: or "new" content
2011-03-28 16:52:47 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: but the problem is 14 years old.
2011-03-28 16:52:51 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: so not to worry.
2011-03-28 16:52:58 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: we are in the forward movement mode.
2011-03-28 16:53:04 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: get it out there....
2011-03-28 16:53:08 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: and thanks for doing this.
2011-03-28 16:53:09 [Message] DearMYRTLE -> Organizers Meeting: .